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22 comments:
I've been a Dawg fan since the mid 60's and can't remember any as bad. However we all seem to forget the differences today versus past years - instant internet makes it appear far worse than it may be. We have also become a nation of zero tolerance.
I attended what was then called the Liberty Bowl and remember seeing more than a few players out on the town the night before the game - UGA lost too.
I'm all about accepting the consequences of your actions, and the events that have occurred in Athens and Atlanta are what they are....
What mystifies me is how there seems to be an epidemic of off field problems at UGA, yet somehow most other institutions seems to avoid the same.
What gives....are the rules different in Athens? Are we asking these kids to be anything other than 18-20 kids?
I'm not excusing the behavior...I am just asking......
The summer of 2007 was pretty bad with random traffic stuff... the frequency then seemed almost the same, but the severity this year beats 2007 hands down. Damon Evans getting into that trouble puts it into a different orbit entirely.
It's too bad the NCAA 'outlawed' housing that is athlete specific; I think a dorm with a curfew would work wonders for kids who've yet to master the art of good judgment.
Drinking is a problem and not unique to UGA.
http://www.alcohol101plus.org/downloads/CollegeStudents.pdf
We had a quiet off-season last year and look how the season turned out.
Usually, the worse we behave in the off-season, the better we play in the season that follows.
Besides Montez's ex, nobody has been physically harmed this off-season.
So I can live with the shenanigans as long as we perform on the field.
If we were to win the SEC this coming year. would very many of you look back with regret at a tumultuous spring & summer?
Many of the people in the football program aren't like you and they aren't like me. We have very little in common with them. Those of you who actually went to UGA know this.
When you step back and look at it, the relationship between big time college athletics and higher education is farcical.
Accept it, live with it, enjoy the wins, and move on.
I agree with JRL and Ozam's comments. To answer the questions Ozam raises, Athens is different. My experience in Athens as a student was that the cops (campus and APD) are jerks for the most part, but that is no excuse for student-athletes to misbehave. Are we to believe that our student-athletes are just worse people in general than those at Bama or FLA? Of course not. The real difference is, Richt does not try to use his influence to keep these incidents under wraps. Nothing has really changed. When I was at UGA (I won't tell you how old I am by telling you when I graduated...LOL), the starting quarterback would barhop with 3 or 4 big linemen in tow. He would hit on people's girlfriends and challenge people to fights (but of course those linemen had his back). I personally know of at least two incidents when he could have been nailed for disorderly conduct, but he was protected by the coach. Richt doesn't play that. That is why we are now hearing about a rash of incidents, not because they just started happening, but because they are not swept under the rug in Athens. My theory is that Meyer and Bear Saban run the press and cops in Gainesville and Tuscaloosa like Bowden used to run Tallahassee. You might hear about a DUI or robbery every so often, but can you imagine reporters in either of those places daring to cover "emerging from an alley" or "failure to cooperate over fireworks"? You saw what Meyer did to Fowler. The cops and the press are in the pockets of the football programs in those towns (like it used to be in most places down south).
This stuff happens in every college town on the country... these UGA cops are so power hungry it is pathetic. Yes, DUI is bad but think of all the other little, stupid crap these football players are getting in trouble for - like the kid last week in the firework "incident". What a joke these cops are, they should either cool down a little bit or go do some real work over in Afghanistan or Iraq if the want to be so tough.
I can not put blame on the cops who are simply out doing their job. The fireworks indecent seems a little in question, but other than that, the cops have a job to do just like we do in our careers. It does seem odd that this does not make headlines in other College towns like it does in Athens. Their could be some Head Coach intervention going on. All the more reason to be proud of Coach Richt. I believe that he has made some changes that will eventually bring home that Crystal Football that we are wanting so bad.
I guess this is the real reason why Mark Richt will never win the big one. This is the reason why AJC has no respect for UGA. If Richt restricts access by journalist, then just like Orlando Sentinel, they will tow the line for UGA. He just a softie.
Coondawg, you are incredibly ignorant and I am dumber after reading what you just wrote. Thanks!
Anon I am your Mack Daddy!
I can and will sow the seeds of yo discontent!
Let that freedom bell ring!
coondawg, your post is so over the top that I have to assume it is a feeble effort at sarcasm. Hopefully no one will take it seriously.
That said, Jackson needs to be kicked off of the team. A DUI alone is grounds for serious suspension, but he left the scene of an accident. That shows a complete disregard for authority and punishment. If he has that kind of attitude, how is he going to respond to any sort of discipline that Richt hands down? He won't. He needs to be dismissed.
Apologies to those who read the racist comment on here before I had a chance to delete it. If more appear, I'll have to turn off commenting.
And, it goes without saying, that the notion put forth was absurd. Considering Damon Evans is hardly "low class" and Zach Mettenberger and Trent Dittmer aren't black, the comments would be stupid even if they weren't so ignorant.
Strict discipline and "Over-recruiting are what Alabama and LSU are doing about this problem. Georgia must do the same.....
Strict discipline and "Over-recruiting are what Alabama and LSU are doing about this problem. Georgia must do the same.....
The real distraction of this all is that Coach Richt has been only 38-14 the last 4 years - good for # 19 in the nation in won / loss records while averaging 21 fumbles a year every year over the last 4 years, averaging # 96 in penalties every year over the last 4 years, averaging 14 interceptions a year every year over the last 4 years and for # 3 in Fulmer Cup Standings as the third worst college in football arrests / suspensions over the last 4 years.
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David Hale, who has 5 days left :
“Is it fair to say there's a real problem with behavior on Georgia's football team?”
“I probably wouldn't argue much if you said there was.”
“Regardless of the explanations or justifications, Georgia's image problem in this regard is largely self-created, and it is something that needs to be addressed and resolved rather than simply explained.”
"Keeping It Real", I completely agree about the farcical relationship between football and academics. I have long believed that the three year requirement is there from the NFL only because colleges know that college football is a cash cow.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if the NFL had a 'minor' league like baseball does where kids could play football if they wanted no part of the academics. Then college football players would be college students,and kids who just wanted to play football would have that opportunity, too.
I understand the NCAA wanting to 'protect' student athletes by having academic standards for them, but sometimes the situation really does border on absurd.
I have to agree with coachspurlock. Think about the uniqueness of Athens. More bars per square mile than any other town in the US. The University IS the town. Now, think about a college like GA Tech. The Fulton County PD has a lot more to worry about in downtown ATL than underage drinking. Not saying that this makes it okay for UGA players to drink and drive; there's no excuse for that. It does, however, make it easier for them to get caught. I also think that there's a lot of shady business that goes on at other schools where they sweep stuff under the rug. Either way, I don't think we're recruiting players of a lower caliber.
Ginny I think you hit the nail on the head regarding players
Those folks trying to lay blame on recruiting is a bit misguided - we essentially recruit the same players as our competitors.
I have heard from several former students that the police force utilizes a large number of criminal justices students to fill slots but I have no proof. I also don't know if that would make any difference but I can see where it could be problematic.
http://gasportreport.blogspot.com/
I'm wondering where the leadership from the players is at. The players know a lot more about each others social lives than the coaches do and have more power to prevent these kinds of incidents. A coach can point out all day that this type of behavior is selfish and hurts the team, but unless a senior who has shed the same blood, sweat, and tears is enforcing the philosophy, it doesn't work. This is a mistake for the entire team to let this kind of stuff happen, and CMR should punish the entire team.
And as for them "just being kids;" BS. They know that they represent the team and the school. I'm not saying that they aren't going to do it, they should just be a lot smarter about it.
It turns out he was just having a date with an hispanic chic just like Damon Evans and was following the precedent of his illustrious Athletic Director by going out and having a few drinks and other activities.This does excuse the behavior.
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